twoleftfeet
11:50 Sat Sep 2
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Nice post Nick, would have been better on the Moyes out thread though.
You carry on stressing out about Moyes and Soucek and I’ll spend my Saturday wallowing in being top of the table and unbeaten.
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Nick QQQ
11:41 Sat Sep 2
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Alvarez, Soucek and JWP doesn’t work in any situation. It will become clear when Moyes plays all 3 which he will.
Alvarez is so much better on the ball he’s technically miles ahead of Soucek. As for “stature” whatever that means he is as strong and as good in the air from what I’ve seen so….
Anyway we all know what’s coming
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Tomshardware
11:39 Sat Sep 2
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Played really well last night, one of those players who's everywhere and involved all the game. Noticed him getting forward a fair bit as well in the first half.
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Hammer and Pickle
11:39 Sat Sep 2
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I very much hope it is explained to Moyes in no uncertain terms that the way to deal with “the balls up and the knock-downs” is to press high, stay in shape and use technique to keep and pass the ball. That’s the way proper football teams like Man City do it, and if Moyes still doesn’t have the confidence that his players can, he’s learnt absolutely nothing from what he saw of Álvarez, Paqueta, JWP and the back four yesterday.
It’s fucking simple. With Álvarez on the scene, Soucek’s “stature” is now surplus to requirements at least until the latter stages of games when the opposition has to resort to try “the balls up and knock downs” and we are too knackered to stop them.
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Stubbo
11:34 Sat Sep 2
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Imo you can't leave out Alvarez or Paqueta, and shifting Paqueta wide left negates his ability to influence the game.
So for me you have a straight choice between JWP and Soucek. There were points last night when I thought Soucek could have been an advantage over JWP in certain situations.
If we had much more dynamic.fullbacks, we could conceive of a 4-4-2 diamond...but with Coufal at RB and Emerson at LB, there isn't really enough pace there to play narrow centrally in that way.
But agree...Vs City Paqueta will blatantly be back wide left with Benny dropped in order to make space for Soucek.
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Takashi Miike
11:18 Sat Sep 2
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I can now see why he's so popular with the mexican fans, the bloke gives his all and loves playing in that position. he was on a par with zouma last night as our best player. I'm not shocked the jock dinosaur shoehorns soucek in to the conversation even when he's not played. he's his pet, his latest version of felaini. that will be the thing that unbalanced the side, but he can't help himself
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fraser
11:13 Sat Sep 2
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So Alvarez and JWP were excellent but we missed Soucek ffs, where does he fit in, in place of an attacking player...
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Manuel
11:11 Sat Sep 2
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Jesus wept, I totally despair. Against City you know he will leave out Benny and go full Moyseball.
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Hammer and Pickle
11:06 Sat Sep 2
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He's at least a bit demented, Moyes, isn't he.
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Nagel
10:58 Sat Sep 2
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"What is very very clear is we don’t need Soucek in the side when he is fit."
I agree but Moyes said a couple of times last night that he thought we missed Soucek:
“I thought the midfield was fantastic and it was difficult because we missed Soucek today but James and Alvarez were class.”
"You have to deal with the balls up and the knock-downs and I think we missed Tomáš Souček for his stature. From that point of view, as the game went on we were struggling a little bit more."
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Hammer and Pickle
10:58 Sat Sep 2
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He's impressive though let's see what kind of impression he has made on Moyes when Soucek is deemed fit to start.
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collyrob
10:47 Sat Sep 2
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Looks a smashing player, proper DM, senses danger so well.
The way he closes people down he seems so big and wide, just smothers people off the ball😂
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onsideman
10:43 Sat Sep 2
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Looks a player. Importantly, looks happy to be here.
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Manuel
10:41 Sat Sep 2
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I noticed at the end of the game on the pitch Moyes having words with him and they looked very complimentary, no chance he leaves him out now, I reckon Moyes loves him.
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fraser
10:35 Sat Sep 2
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An Ajax fan said the amount of times there would be goal mouth Scramble and he would just stride out of it with the ball as cool as a cucumber, looks a great player.
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Nick QQQ
10:28 Sat Sep 2
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What is very very clear is we don’t need Soucek in the side when he is fit. He is a much better player all round, even in the air.
Hopefully Moyes saw the same. Won’t hold my breath though
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dealcanvey
8:54 Sat Sep 2
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Looked very assured. Will adapt to the Premier League quickly. Rarely loses the ball. Good passing and gets it out of his feet quickly. Refreshing.
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Stubbo
8:48 Sat Sep 2
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Agree Manuel.
What I like about this guy is he knows what his job is in the side, and relishes it. Bloke's a pure destroyer...but on top of that has quick feet, shifts the ball well, and clearly feels comfortable when he finds himself higher up the pitch trading passes with the more offensive players.
Looks at this point a top drawer signing, and if he keeps it up we probably won't have him for more than a season or two (if we're being realistic).
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Pedro
8:46 Sat Sep 2
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He is pure class. Always has more time than everyone else. Calm on the ball. Quick feet. Spots danger.
His movement and angles reminded me of carrick.
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Manuel
6:58 Sat Sep 2
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Looks like a proper no fuss signing, but what's with the childish Rice comparisons, I don't expect much from him going forward, which is why it was said from the off that we needed 2 players to replace Rice.
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El Coucho
3:53 Sat Sep 2
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I’ve a Dutch friend who supports Ajax. He put it like this. Alvarez is better than Rice at covering the back four but won’t give as much going forward. Seems he’s right. He’s not such a fan of Kudus though.
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